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Many people ask:
"What are the blues?"

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I'll tell you about it.

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The film contains profanity.

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This is the story of the improbable

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love story,
which started out quite innocently

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in the British grayness of the 50s,

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but by the 70s it turned
into an exciting passion.

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From a secret society -
to international recognition,

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this is the path that Britain has taken

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after contracting the blues.

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BLUES BRITAIN

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"Can white people sing the blues?"

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BORN UNDER
AN UNLUCKY STAR.

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Britain in the 50s is a dilapidated country,
marked by austerity,

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military uniform and dreams
about the coming of a better time.

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Generation of post-war children

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turned out to be left to the mercy of fate
amidst a dusty landscape

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a resurgent country.

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Yes, everything was gray.

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And you: “When the hell will
will we get out of this?

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And I thought we won?!"

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Nightmare. We didn't even have candy.

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We were living on ration cards, baby, seriously.

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Everything in Britain was colorless.

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As a city, Glasgow did not exist,

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it was some kind of gray watercolor.
You keep bumping into things.

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Nothing is visible because
At 4 o'clock in the afternoon it is already dark.

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We drink ersatz cocoa,

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There is darkness all around.

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The young people had nowhere to go
hmm... there was nothing

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intended for youth.

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Strict rules and orders reigned everywhere.

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Those were sad days.

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The musical antidote was obvious.

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Dance groups and pop singers

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provided all the entertainment,

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so that the country can take a walk.

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But not everyone sought solace in dancing.

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Somewhere around 53-54

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Britain was literally exhausted
no alternative music.

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After all, the first rock and roll appeared
not earlier than 55-56?

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Before this, the music was colorless.

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Main components
American rock and roll

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spilled over into Britain in '57.

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A new youth phenomenon has emerged.

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But two years later, emotional and
musical liberation,

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which he brought

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reached a premature impasse.

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Business has gone on the offensive
and the outstanding musicians retreated,

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leaving Britain at mercy
musical imitators.

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Elvis went into the army

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and Jerry Lee Lewis, being married,
contacted 12 year old cousin

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and ruined my career.

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Chuck Barry crossed the line
between creativity and commerce

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and was active in this area,

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and Little Richard went into gospel music.

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Rock and roll...

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lost my... well, I think

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the excitement around him disappeared.

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For the most part it was
simplified hack work, right?

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All these

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"Moon In June", "Lipstick On Your Collar"...

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you know, they were just terrible.

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Mmm-hmm-hmm-hmm...

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Rock roll doctors
a new medicine was needed.

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In this they found strength,
depth and sincerity.

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They were captivated by the music
which they haven't heard before

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and from which rock and roll came,
black music

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American South - blues.

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It was so energetic...

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and directly.

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You know, nothing like that

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I haven't experienced it since then
The first time I heard Little Richard.

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But it just don't work on you...

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Without any cultural education.

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No information about blues
was not required

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just... bam and that's it!

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You could dance to it

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get drunk, fuck,
anything.

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Louisiana Get me a mojo...

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When it's served well
and well executed

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it's contagious.

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You shouldn't even know
what are you going to...

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It was as if people were hooked on a needle.

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Right here on my command...

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If you have contracted this virus,
it was difficult to get rid of him.

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It's one thing to catch a virus,
and another is to supply it with food.

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began to appear
specialty stores,

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selling American music.

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Mysteriously, many of these entries

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responded in Britain
a distant echo of the American South

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and became known as the Thames Delta.

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Upcoming British blues artists

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Tony McPhee and Dave Kelly with sister

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visited the store often
"Swing Shop", in Streatham.

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The blues was one of those things
which really hooked me.

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Many were more interested
its unusualness rather than its content.

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There I got myself all John Lee Hooker

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and Howlin' Wolf on the Crown label,
where were his songs from the 40s.

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Jo Ann, me and Tony McPhee
As usual we were hanging out at the Swing Shop.

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We expected
another batch of records

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and pushed each other away with their elbows,

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when they appeared.

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The store was located there
Where is Chinatown in Soho now?

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but at that time
it was a street with shops

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for the sale of written-off
army equipment.

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Can you imagine such a picture -

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men in long coats
hanging around Soho?

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These men in long coats

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peering into shop windows

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with electron beam
tubes, valves and diodes,

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in the basement of one of these stores,
one guy

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began selling imported records.

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There was something very attractive
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a significant number of people

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wanted to listen
Bill Haley and Tommy Steele.

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interested in Howlin' Wolf
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Jelly Roll Morton and Lightning Slim.

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Unusual names too.

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There was something abnormal about this
Do you understand? Howlin' Wolf...

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What kind of "Howling Wolf" is this?

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if you live in Surbiton?

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Did you think: "Oh my God,

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what can you call someone
Muddy Waters or Howlin' Wolf

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Bo Diddley or Leadbelly?

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Where do these names come from?
What is this? That's how it felt.

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But what were these songs about?

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Old 78 rpm wheels
often of poor quality,

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recorded on the way,

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they told
about feelings and experiences

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completely alien to the Thames Delta.
It was difficult to understand them.

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Like the Rolling Stones years before,
we tried our best

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make out the words on these recordings.

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We still couldn't
identify some of them

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that's why we inserted other words,
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What is he saying?

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It didn't stick in my head,
but I didn’t have time to write it down, you know?

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It was crazy.

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Yes, the texts were complex for about an hour.
We encountered this at Little Richard.

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My mom tried

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play the recording slower,
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but it didn't help.

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She came up with all sorts of funny ideas
about what this could mean.

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But in the end

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your ears adjusted.

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And when they

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tuned in to the right wave,
have often heard

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dark humor and deep emotionality.

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Stories in verse
about life without conventions...

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without lipstick and white collars.

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The main thing that attracts you in the blues is
his exceptional sincerity.

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When you listen
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that you can imagine
and realize their reality.

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If you've seen John Lee Hooker,

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you will believe his story because he
sings about a big fire,

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which he himself experienced.
It seems his girlfriend died there.

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Or the flood in Tupelo on the Mississippi
which is really

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affected his life.

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My favorite performer is Joe Turner.

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When he sings: "My baby's gone,
she ain't comin' back"

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and "She's lower than a snake
crawling down in a wagon track",

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it's so hard!

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You think: “What a deep image!”

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And the Elmore James thing

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"The sky is crying, look at the tears
rolling down the streets."

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This sounds fantastic.

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Or "I'm going down to Louisiana,
somewhere behind the sun" by Muddy Waters.

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Magical thing.

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Almost like

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by Sleepy John Estes, who sang:
"Get away from my window.

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Quit scratching on my screen."

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He portrayed his girlfriend as a wild animal,

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scratching doors, can you imagine?

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If you are only 15-16 years old,
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similar words and phrases

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possible consequences...

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it's not just sexy

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it seems to be done erotically,
and we guessed:

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"Yeah, something's going on here."

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Even if we didn't know the slang
and what the links led to.

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These bluesmen sang about
like getting laid.

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I studied what they played
but I didn't have sex.

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It means I missed something in my life.

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Obviously, to become a bluesman,
I should have seen

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like this lemon juice

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running down my leg.

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Actually

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these guys didn't go to school,

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they didn't make small talk.

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But then...

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How can I become like them?

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located in the ranks of blues adherents,

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resembled a participant
fashionable Masonic lodge.

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A society so secret
that even his own members

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didn't always know
about each other's existence.

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It was like education
Solar system.

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Dust gathers together
into a star shape and so on.

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Suddenly you discover
that someone living next door

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has a Freddie King record,
or something like that, you know?

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If you heard that someone

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blowing a harmonica in Ealing,
you immediately rushed there.

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If you missed any album,
then I was ready

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follow him anywhere.

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It reminded
"Night of the Living Dead"

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People are like zombies
moved in that direction

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where the record they needed was located.

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Someone gave me the address of a man

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who got hold of the Muddy Waters album.

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The bus took me all the way to Tooting.

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At half past seven in the evening
I knocked on the door.

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A guy appeared behind me and I asked him:

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"You have this
Muddy Waters album?

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He replied: "Yes..."

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“Can I look at him?”

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He brought the album and showed it.

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“Can I hold it in my hands?”

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Among these collectors
There are such eccentrics.

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You understand
what does it cost to get to them...

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not to mention
how to get out of there.

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"Oh, do you have it?"

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"Do you have this album?
I'll come and listen to him."

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We didn't have tape recorders
and we went to visit each other.

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I knew that Brian Jones was basically
I bought guitar albums.

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And I preferred those records
where was the harmonica?

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so we took from each other
records and listened to them.

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Brian had
large collection of records.

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For that matter,
This is exactly what struck me.

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The housewives had their own get-togethers,
and we have our own.

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Yeah, I could rip these guys off
if you got to their collection.

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"You just wait there, while I fumble around
according to your records"

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Well that's how it was
You understand me, right?

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Oddly enough, England turned out to be
ideal place

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for the younger generation,
in love with the blues.

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Traditional jazz, which
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swept across Great Britain in the late 50s.

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Popular trombonist
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In addition to jazz, he also had a passion for blues.

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He was lucky
play in a successful band

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and have the financial capacity to

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to do what he wants.

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Thus he performed
different music

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from blues to gospel.

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You know, some people
sitting with their hands folded

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and are waiting for an opportunity,

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and he simply said:
"To hell with it, but I'll do it."

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He brought to the country all the famous
American performers,

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playing blues and rhythm and blues.

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I think I was the first
sister Roszeta Tharp '57,

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then there was Muddy Waters in '59,

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Sonny Terry, Brownie McGee in '58

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and continued in the 60s,
when he brought Muddy back,

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Howlin' Wolf,

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Sonny Boy Williamson
Lewis Jordan and others...

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He just wanted
play with these people.

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He wanted to listen to them
along with his rhythm section.

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We wanted to make friends
with real folk musicians.

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They helped us better
perform blues and jazz.

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We wanted these people
helped us use the elements

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that we knew
but they doubted their performance.

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We wanted everything to be right.

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When in the late 50s, thanks
Barber's expenses and initiative,

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American blues legends
first appeared on the British stage,

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there was a friendly audience in front of them,

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consisting of white and educated people.

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Everyone was wearing shirts and ties
and anti-war symbols.

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These were lovers of jazz and folk,
not crazy rock and rollers.

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Honestly,

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among this kind of audience
there were always representatives

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middle class,

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who spoke with the left
political views.

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It must have helped us
that we were...

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I wouldn't say respectful
but obviously

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that we cared not only

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about the original performance of music,

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but also in its most sincere expression.

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We owe a huge debt to music

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which was completely foreign to us.

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Apparently no one mentioned
to the experiences of black people,

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living in Great Britain at the time
because their life was completely different.

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Few black Americans
settled in Britain.

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These are mostly immigrants
from the Caribbean and Asia.

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Young rock and roll audience
wanted to sing electric blues,

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Why the purist audience of a jazz club?
Chris Barbera wasn't quite ready.

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But this has already become a reality.

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When Muddy Waters first
arrived in Britain in '58,

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he played a Fender Telecaster guitar.

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The local authoritative public,

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grew up on outdated records
and weird blues ideas

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like folk black music,
was dejected.

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Among the spectators there were those

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who wanted him to be like
for a village boy,

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which they heard on the recordings.

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A kind of country blues
cotton fields.

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They had to take into account the wishes of the audience,

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when they heard a cry from the hall:

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"Where's the acoustic guitar?"

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As they left the stage, they thought about it.

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Two years passed and he returned
with an acoustic guitar.

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But by then everyone wanted to hear

308
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what does his Telecaster sound like?
passed through an amplifier.

309
00:17:18,580 --> 00:17:23,660
Everyone forgot about acoustics in 62-63
Everyone has already listened to this kind of music.

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Among them was Memphis Slim and it seems
I drove them back to the hotel.

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Either I was transporting them by car,

312
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did we come back together?
back by bus.

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We were sitting in the hotel lobby
with Muddy and Memphis Slim

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and Muddy asked:

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"I don't know what they want from us.
What do people need?"

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Some English viewers thought
what you should have

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be dark-skinned, wear jeans

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and play acoustic guitar.

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It meant you played the blues.

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But, if you connected the guitar to an amp...

321
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no, no, sorry, then you sinned.

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The British have formed
certain stereotype

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regarding the image of the ordinary
black musician.

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Looking at the photo
Big Bill Broonzy 30's

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you understand how gorgeous he is.

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He came to England in the 50s.

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There are stills

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where he's dressed like a farmer,

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plays guitar and sings

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something like "John Henry" because...

331
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it's made for white people in England.

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334
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Several years after the show aired
"White and Black Minstrel"

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British television has improved little.

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Abandoned branch by 1964
railway near Manchester

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transformed into a place
which, in the understanding of television producers,

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should have provided support
new tour of blues bands.

339
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,320
I remember footage of Muddy Waters
with a guitar,

340
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which he holds in his hand

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small leather suitcase.

342
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He walks along the paths

343
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and starts singing some blues song.
All this was filmed like this

344
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,800
to make it look like
on a wandering tramp.

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00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,200


346
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Part of the British
youth blues fraternity

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was not limited only
listening to music.

348
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,440
If they learned to play
american rock and roll,

349
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why not take up the blues?

350
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,540
Since such music exists,

351
00:19:32,740 --> 00:19:36,300
we were able to muster up the nerve
and think about

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00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,800
to play this music.

353
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,820
How do you like such delicious stupidity!?

354
00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:46,820
Do you think only one is sluggish?

355
00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:50,020
pimply 17 year old
Dartford teenager

356
00:19:50,220 --> 00:19:52,220
wanted to become Muddy Waters?

357
00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:54,960
Yes, there was a whole bunch of us.
These are the ones.

358
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On the one hand it looked pathetic,

359
00:20:00,220 --> 00:20:03,820
but at the same time
it was from the heart.

360
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,400
The desire to play the blues was one thing,

361
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,900
but to reach the heights of mastery is another.

362
00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:16,480
Vinyl-obsessed British teenagers

363
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,980
didn't open easily
the many secrets of black music.

364
00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:24,660


365
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366
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367
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368
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,140


369
00:20:32,340 --> 00:20:34,660
You know, they say that the blues
it's only 12 bars.

370
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,000
Somehow you heard this... well, in general,

371
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,360
The guy has no money, his girlfriend left him.

372
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,140
He is standing at the station waiting for the train,
and the train is late...

373
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,060
Of course, of course, buddy.
Familiar problems.

374
00:20:48,060 --> 00:20:49,100
This is not true at all.

375
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,600
As soon as you start playing,

376
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,300
Do you understand that this has something to do with...

377
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,900
I need to know how he does it.

378
00:20:57,100 --> 00:21:01,100
Yeah this dude's hand
just glued to the fretboard!

379
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,300
And what he did sounded simple
you see...

380
00:21:07,420 --> 00:21:10,180
By the way, he has here
incredible rhythm...

381
00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:11,480
and he...

382
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,360
and you should have played the same.

383
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,440
It's not enough to enjoy it
feel it too.

384
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,960
You should know

385
00:21:19,260 --> 00:21:22,660
how to play it correctly.
There are technical things that...

386
00:21:22,860 --> 00:21:26,100
so that your guitar
trombone or voice, no matter what,

387
00:21:26,300 --> 00:21:30,000
reproduced the necessary sounds,
you should know how it's done.

388
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,300
You need to learn this.

389
00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:37,800
Fast, slow, quiet, silent,

390
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,740
loud, shrill, lower, higher.

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00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,720


392
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,760


393
00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:55,640
This is the dynamics
based on a base of 3-4 chords.

394
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With small means the effect is achieved,
which affects you emotionally.

395
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,380
It seems easy to play
and everything lies on the surface,

396
00:22:06,580 --> 00:22:07,780
but then you think:

397
00:22:12,380 --> 00:22:15,120
"How do they do this? Stop, it's not clear."

398
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,580
Where did this come from?

399
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,980
Do you have questions:
"What do they do and how?"

400
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,280
Keyboard players began to use

401
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,040
muted notes.

402
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,100
In fact they were trying to copy

403
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,100
guitar playing style,

404
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,600
which, as is known,
impossible to do on keyboards

405
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,700
neither physically nor mechanically.

406
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,180
At a time when the revolution
in music has already begun,

407
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,100
it seemed the rest of the world
As usual, I didn't notice anything.

408
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,660
A whole army of clerks

409
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,860
dressed identically in the style of City bankers,

410
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,880
still got on the 7 o'clock train,
going to Waterloo station.

411
00:22:58,180 --> 00:23:00,180
They didn't realize
that at the same time their children

412
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,280
bought shabby guitars from a pawn shop

413
00:23:02,580 --> 00:23:04,140
and played J.R. Morton songs.

414
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,840
Probably no one knew

415
00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:13,740
visiting blues legends
as good as Val Wilmer

416
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,260
who was then an ordinary girl,

417
00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:18,260
in love with their music.

418
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,760
She met and photographed them,

419
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,160
wrote about them and hung out with them,

420
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,440
sharing your knowledge of Britain
in a friendly atmosphere.

421
00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:30,260
Here they collided
with different problems.

422
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,680
It was a strange world for them.

423
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,860
I was worried about the question: “To what extent?
Do we seem exotic to them?"

424
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,560
They had to deal with us.

425
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,600
We didn't understand their language
but they thought that they understood us.

426
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,800
Here I am with Jimmy Rushing.

427
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,200
It was Mr. 5 by 5: height
five feet and five feet wide.

428
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,720
Wonderful singer, great guy,
who wrote to me more than once...

429
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,620
It's great that I knew him.

430
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,920
My mom filmed this

431
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,720
who was at the concert with me.

432
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,080
And this is my mom with Jack Dupree.

433
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,520
It must have been when he hugged her

434
00:24:08,820 --> 00:24:11,220
this became a real test for her,

435
00:24:11,420 --> 00:24:13,420
because he was also a joker.

436
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,160
A true prankster.
Look at him - it's Mr. Dodger.

437
00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:20,980
I was shocked when I first came here.

438
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,040
They took me to dinner
to a big restaurant

439
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,560
and I really couldn’t eat anything,

440
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,360
because I was sitting next to white people.

441
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,760
I was embarrassed all the time, I was
in a terrible state because...

442
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,660
expected that at any moment
I might get kicked out.

443
00:24:35,860 --> 00:24:38,100
I felt out of place.

444
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,700
Dupree often stayed in London

445
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:46,500
in an evocative way
"Airways Mansions" -

446
00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:49,320
hotel on a small street
behind Piccadilly,

447
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,620
a million miles from the Ritz Hotel.

448
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,880
Lived in Airways Mansions
all black musicians.

449
00:24:57,980 --> 00:25:00,760
I think they started
been staying there since the 50's.

450
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,580
The fact is that this hotel
wasn't like the others

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00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:06,420
in which guests

452
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,420
it was forbidden to receive guests
in their rooms.

453
00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:13,020
This kind of thing always caused chaos,
because dark-skinned

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00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,980
considered this discrimination.

455
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,120
That's why Memphis Slim was there
behind a small curtain

456
00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:23,140
with the usual bottle of whiskey.

457
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,560
The first person I met

458
00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:29,660
there was Jack Dupree and he
stayed at this hotel.

459
00:25:29,860 --> 00:25:32,480
As soon as he arrived,
together with Memphis

460
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,480
they went to Cecil G's store
and bought ourselves a sweater.

461
00:25:36,780 --> 00:25:40,720
There are things on the shelf behind him,
necessary for him during the day.

462
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,800
Here he has several bottles of beer,

463
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,260
three different types of whiskey and a bottle of milk,
but not for that

464
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to improve your health.

465
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,620
It needs to be mixed with whiskey,
to fill your stomach.

466
00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:55,320
In general, how did I find out

467
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,420
many of the old blues singers
drank whiskey with milk.

468
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,140
By the early 60s, among the younger generation
electric blues fans

469
00:26:05,340 --> 00:26:07,240
had its own community.

470
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,220
The focus was on the group
"Blues Incorporated"

471
00:26:10,420 --> 00:26:12,880
founded by guitarist Alexis Korner

472
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,980
and his unpleasant partner,
played the harmonica.

473
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,300
They were like heaven and earth.

474
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,640
Alexis collaborated with very
a gruff worker from Streatham

475
00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:26,780
named Cyril Davies.

476
00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:29,580
But Alexis himself was polite and self-starter.

477
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,680
He spoke beautifully, you know...
as if in Russian...

478
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,760
God knows what...

479
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,860
In a sense

480
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,660
their partnership seemed unlikely.

481
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,020
Cyril had a great voice.

482
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,720

But it just won't work on you...

483
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:49,520
He sang very sincerely.

484
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,780

But it just won't work on you...

485
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,120
He almost sounded like a black man

486
00:26:56,420 --> 00:26:59,200
but the way he sang didn't seem fake.

487
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,560
He was a key figure.

488
00:27:01,860 --> 00:27:04,160
Not to mention how magical

489
00:27:04,460 --> 00:27:06,460
he played the harmonica.

490
00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:11,880
Alexis's main achievement

491
00:27:12,180 --> 00:27:15,180
not at all in his role as a performer,
guitarist or singer.

492
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,480
He was the catalyst

493
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,180
and became the most important person

494
00:27:20,380 --> 00:27:22,680
in the history of British blues.

495
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,840
On the outskirts of London

496
00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:29,140
where the central one ended
metro line and there was a bus depot,

497
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,920
Alexis Corner has furnished a haven

498
00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:34,620
for young blues enthusiasts.

499
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,120
Ealing Jazz Club Becomes Venue

500
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,320
for future performances
British performers

501
00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:44,920
and the center of homegrown
rhythm and blues movement.

502
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,480
Saturday evenings

503
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,300
there you could see the main
some of those people who will soon

504
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,600
will represent
the first British blues boom.

505
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,640
We all hung out there, and so did Alexis,
God bless him, could say:

506
00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:03,240
"Get your act together and do a couple of songs."

507
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,700
I had to get up
and give out your “Mojo working”...

508
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,280
Basically, he was the father of British blues.

509
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,920
Of course, grandfather's place
went to Chris Barber.

510
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,100
Apparently young Brian Jones
was the first slide guitarist

511
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:26,600
ever listened to in Britain.

512
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,540
He quickly got tired of dragging around
from Cheltenham to Corner Club by bus.

513
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,460
One day Brian called me:

514
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,460
"I'm putting together a group.

515
00:28:36,660 --> 00:28:40,060
For now, there are only two of us -
me and Keith Richards on guitar.

516
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:42,700
Would you like to become our singer?"

517
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,020
And I answered: "No..."

518
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,040
He expressed his invitation in these words:

519
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,400
"We didn't take it seriously

520
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,480
but now everything will be different.

521
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,920
I'll move to London, rent an apartment,

522
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,620
I'll form a band and become rich and famous."

523
00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:01,840
And then I dealt him the final blow:

524
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,940
"Stop talking nonsense, Brian!
We're playing the blues here, man."

525
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,440
AT TOP OF THE WORLD

526
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:17,880
By the beginning of '63

527
00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:19,980
British electric blues

528
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,580
still had no demand
outside of jazz clubs.

529
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,980
But by the end of the year

530
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,180
he gained popularity
thanks to the Rolling Stones -

531
00:29:28,380 --> 00:29:31,080
group, headed by
was Brian Jones.

532
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,420
Of the young people, we were the only ones who played the blues.

533
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,620
We were the only real band

534
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,440
doing this.

535
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,540
We performed in jazz clubs.

536
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,660
But we were banned because they
I didn't like young upstarts.

537
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,620
I guess we lacked originality

538
00:29:48,820 --> 00:29:51,220
and we did it too pop.

539
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,920
We headed towards
dance halls and stuff like that,

540
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,420
spreading new music across England.

541
00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:01,540
The first thing we'll play is

542
00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:04,240
There will be "Boom Boom" by John Lee Hooker.

543
00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:08,060
By '64 British rhythm and blues
took over the entire country.

544
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,060
It was live music.

545
00:30:20,660 --> 00:30:23,320
Stones, Yardbirds, Manfred Mann, Animals.

546
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,560


547
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,120


548
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,140


549
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,340


550
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,300
Based in Newcastle,

551
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,400
the group "Animals" was part of
national blues explosion.

552
00:30:41,060 --> 00:30:42,480
London remained Mecca

553
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,080
but the blues could be heard

554
00:30:44,380 --> 00:30:45,880
in any British city.

555
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Young musician from Belfast
named Van Morrison,

556
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,040
together with his group "Them"
appeared in Soho,

557
00:30:52,340 --> 00:30:53,740
в "Marquee Club".

558
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,300


559
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,180
Well, I'm listening... Charlie Mingus

560
00:31:01,380 --> 00:31:03,720
and... Gerry Mulligan.

561
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,260
Besides, I'm listening
Leadbelly and John Lee Hooker.

562
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,340
Yes, advanced jazz,

563
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,440
plus real simple blues.

564
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,280
- Heavy blues.
- Root.

565
00:31:14,580 --> 00:31:15,980
Influenced by heavy blues.

566
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,880


567
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,680


568
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,360


569
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,520


570
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,360


571
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,920
Well let's listen
what number on the chart?

572
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,620
the thing shot
called "Red Cockerel".

573
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,760
In November '64, the Rolling Stones
expressed teenage passion

574
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,600
in a very revealing cover
to Willie Dixon's blues.

575
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:57,420


576
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,480


577
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,020
I must say

578
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,720
we needed to have balls of steel,

579
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,380
to decide to release it as a single.

580
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,600


581
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,760


582
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,960
Everyone around said:
"You'll ruin your career

583
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,920
if you release this thing as a single.
You will destroy yourself."

584
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,720
We said:

585
00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:23,820
"What the hell? We believe in her!"

586
00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:26,240


587
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,360


588
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,140
Let's stand on our feet, let's be men

589
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:36,740
and give them the blues, that's what I mean.

590
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,740
He came out on Friday night
and already on Monday it became No. 1.

591
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,920


592
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,160
It was the only pure blues recording

593
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,020
ever topped the chart.

594
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,980
Anywhere.

595
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,100
So then we...

596
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:52,900
paid off.

597
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,640
We figured we could handle it and did it.

598
00:33:00,460 --> 00:33:02,540
There is some ambiguity here:

599
00:33:02,740 --> 00:33:05,100
"I got a little red rooster,
too lazy to crow for days",

600
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:08,260
well, they saw it in this
more sexy than it was.

601
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,440
I don't have to write for you at all.
only pop songs.

602
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,480
and all that, you know...

603
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,560
Come on,

604
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,540
can we present this music like this?

605
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,900
so that white American youth
listened to "Little Red Rooster"

606
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,340
and shouted to the beat: “Yes! Yes! Yes!”?

607
00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:30,180
And then I will say: “You see,
you had this energy.

608
00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:32,660
Yes. You just haven’t listened to such songs.”

609
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,700
But not everything was treated
with due respect.

610
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,240
Many believed that you must

611
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,840
copy the original in good faith

612
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,520
and this seemed rather absurd to us.

613
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,620
And if you made fun of him,
everyone would think that for you

614
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,980
nothing is sacred.

615
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,060
I want to say that we are pretty
They mocked the 12 bars.

616
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,420
Our foundation was power chords
and increasing volume.

617
00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:14,820
But the audience themselves wanted it.
This is how they fed us.

618
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,080
They wanted to break furniture

619
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,480
and act completely crazy.

620
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,600


621
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,280

well and a real cool dame

622
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,800


623
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,100

that old Fairlane...

624
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:36,520
I would like to note that both for us and for those who
came to see us, it was 18.

625
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:39,480
They wanted something
with a lot of energy.

626
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,540
So we played "Big Boss Man"
three times faster.

627
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,660
But you must admit, it wasn’t
the same blues?

628
00:34:45,860 --> 00:34:48,460
I'm talking about when we performed

629
00:34:48,660 --> 00:34:51,260
in dilapidated clubs in the southern United States,

630
00:34:51,460 --> 00:34:54,820
I felt the same there
electrification.

631
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,120
We were white boys
playing for white youth.

632
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,020
I felt that there was
same energy

633
00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:04,500
as in other places located
a thousand miles apart.

634
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,040
They loved this music
wanted to play and worked hard.

635
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,440
It turned out differently, but that's okay.

636
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,180
If I'm white and grew up in South London,
it will definitely be different.

637
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,300
It's... like, you know, but...

638
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,440
Cyril Davies and they all were
great, brilliant, although...

639
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,880
There was something missing from them, right?

640
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,880
- They did not find a response from their peers.
- Yes, it's possible.

641
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,100
Well, I don't really think so
what's the matter with this. It was something...

642
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,860
- Almost museum exhibits.
- Well, they were older.

643
00:35:35,060 --> 00:35:36,440
- Yes.
- They were older than us.

644
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,040
All the performers were older.

645
00:35:38,540 --> 00:35:41,660
The point is that we listened
records of 50-year-old guys.

646
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,440
Well actually
we wouldn't be able to repeat it,

647
00:35:48,740 --> 00:35:50,740
Isn't that enough?

648
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:02,560
Insatiable in the 12 month race
British blues bands

649
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,380
torn to pieces
the entire black blues repertoire.

650
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,000
This stock of blues songs
was capitalized very quickly.

651
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,680
And about the race for fashion...

652
00:36:14,980 --> 00:36:18,140
Dick Taylor, who used to
played with us

653
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,140
was not one of those who chased fashion,
I know that for sure.

654
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,480
- Everyone had their own...
- Repertoire.

655
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,180
Your own arsenal.

656
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,420
We didn't take on
"Smokestack Lightning" and then,

657
00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:31,220
that the Yardbirds were playing.

658
00:36:31,420 --> 00:36:32,620
Well or

659
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,300
"Little Red Rooster"
because it was performed by the Stones.

660
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:38,520
You went your own way and
invented his own repertoire.

661
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,180
"Yardbirds" followed in our footsteps
and kept asking about something:

662
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,860
"What strings are you using?"

663
00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:48,340
"And how do you play in the middle
Little Walter songs?

664
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:53,360
You know, they came to us during intermissions
and asked all these questions.

665
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,060
We weren't really meant to be
similar to "Rolling Stones"

666
00:36:57,260 --> 00:36:59,280
and our decision was conscious.

667
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,220
"The Animals" were

668
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,600
from the north, practically from another country.
So we didn't worry about it

669
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,620
or they didn’t even pay attention at all
attention to their music.

670
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,300
Well... yes, we really knew what we were doing.
Yes, they really did.

671
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,740
Well, to be honest, the blues
doesn't have to be black.

672
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,460
On the way from the southern USA to southern England,

673
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,520
blues, in the wake of Beatlemania,
became music

674
00:37:24,820 --> 00:37:26,980
overexcited teenagers.

675
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,660
This angered purists

676
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,740
who believed that white youth

677
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,240
steals black music
for your own needs.

678
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,840
Are you saying it was unfair?

679
00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:39,340
We didn't even think about it.

680
00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:41,840
Why did we have to think about this?

681
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,020
No one cared then.

682
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,660
You know that the blues
there is a sociological subtext:

683
00:37:47,860 --> 00:37:51,300
what exactly happened
how people felt and so on.

684
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:54,000
It made the blues what it is.

685
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,260
And I think it’s very important to perceive

686
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,780
not only its external side.

687
00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:02,180
I mean that you must

688
00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:06,020
don't ruin the music of those people
whom you admire.

689
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,760
New teenage audience
fans of British electric blues,

690
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,520
for the umpteenth time she was completely white.

691
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,820
It may be strange, but we
did not appeal to black audiences.

692
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,340
The composition we tried
get together with Paul Jones,

693
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,360
rehearsed in one of the pubs
south London.

694
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,100
One day the owner of the pub approached us:

695
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:34,540
"The group that was supposed to
I didn’t come to perform today.

696
00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:37,100
Would you like to play instead of them?"

697
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,940
We started playing and were met
stunning indifference.

698
00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:44,540
But when a black man
with a pint of Guinness in hand

699
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,260
came out of the depths of the bar and stood closer,

700
00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:49,860
we noticed how he beats out a rhythm with his foot.

701
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,540
I confess

702
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,940
we were happy that at least

703
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:57,180
one person enjoyed it
what we were trying to do...

704
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,940
and he was black.

705
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,400
British blues singers

706
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:10,240
were not black and did not apply
to a black audience.

707
00:39:10,580 --> 00:39:12,600
But the love of music forced them

708
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,300
identify oneself
with black people and their hardships.

709
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,400
It was something heavier

710
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,760
than I could have imagined
provincial UK.

711
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,680
There were no plantations here and never
did not live in conditions of complete poverty.

712
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,340
No one had to

713
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,920
like Blind to Lemon Jefferson

714
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,120
humiliate yourself on the street
tiny Texas town

715
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,740
for a few 5 or 10 cent coins.

716
00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:37,340
No one here has ever encountered anything like this.

717
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,060
I find it absolutely incredible that

718
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,980
that white British blues,
appeared and developed

719
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,240
mainly in this

720
00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:48,540
aristocratic area

721
00:39:48,740 --> 00:39:50,440
in the south of England.

722
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,380
Well, isn't it funny?

723
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,780
I guess

724
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,440
that everyone felt a certain
sympathy or sympathy

725
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,340
towards the oppressed.

726
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,260
Of course I didn't want to become oppressed
that would be stupid.

727
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,100
In a way it was romantic.

728
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,760
"Wow, look
how terribly these people are treated.

729
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,920
Boy, I'm with you."

730
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,200
Early 60s

731
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:23,460
to be "one of them" meant to be in
Civil rights movement in America

732
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,140
and fight fiercely,

733
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,840
to end slavery and segregation.

734
00:40:33,060 --> 00:40:37,340
It was a matter of life
of our generation, isn't it?

735
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,260
As a young man in the 60s,

736
00:40:40,460 --> 00:40:45,260
did you actually read
works of James Baldwin.

737
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,580
Most of my friends
associated with rhythm and blues,

738
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:51,020
knew well what was happening in America

739
00:40:51,220 --> 00:40:53,020
regarding compliance with civil rights.

740
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,120
We all knew

741
00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:57,420
how they treated black people there.

742
00:40:58,820 --> 00:41:01,560
All this
seemed unsafe.

743
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:04,180
Young white intellectuals were leaving

744
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,860
trying to find
black elderly people in Mississippi.

745
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,420
At that time you had every right
to die in the swamps.

746
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:15,240
This is Paul Oliver, who wrote about the blues.

747
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,560
He was a prominent personality in those days.

748
00:41:20,460 --> 00:41:22,820
Along with his wife Valerie,

749
00:41:23,020 --> 00:41:25,560
he traveled through all the southern states.

750
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,540
They recorded many.

751
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,120
Interviewed those

752
00:41:31,420 --> 00:41:33,380
who rehearsed at the Albert Hall.

753
00:41:33,580 --> 00:41:35,280
It is important to know the origins.

754
00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:38,280
You know, people are very serious
related to this.

755
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,320
For a number of musicians no less
It was important to achieve an accurate sound.

756
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,080
So accurate
as far as possible.

757
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,240
On these recordings there was something
what we were trying to achieve.

758
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,380
All ideas were drawn from them,
because by that time

759
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,280
none of us
I've never been to America

760
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,320
and never visited a recording studio.

761
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,540
We had no idea
how they made their notes.

762
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,540
Where to put the microphone?

763
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,600
How to achieve sound in a room?

764
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,740
Where would John Lee Hooker tap his foot?

765
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,460
Move the microphone back a little.

766
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,060
Because Johnson
it was possible

767
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,440
hear places like this
where the microphone is specially moved away,

768
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,800
to get more guitar

769
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,800
and she seems to be crying there.

770
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,580
But there are also those where she
is almost right next to his face.

771
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,140
No matter how hard you try,

772
00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:48,060
it will never sound the same

773
00:42:48,260 --> 00:42:50,660
like on American records,

774
00:42:50,860 --> 00:42:54,880
that's why there are such voices
only for black performers.

775
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,480
This is the main part of it
what we call the blues,

776
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,900
and it is almost impossible to recreate it.

777
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,380
Recording this music in the UK
became a struggle between generations,

778
00:43:09,580 --> 00:43:12,500
like young bluesmen
have been criticized by

779
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:16,060
British sound engineers
in their starched white coats.

780
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,320
Sometimes in brown coats!

781
00:43:20,020 --> 00:43:21,740
Yes, that's what I mean

782
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,540
that they did not particularly observe decency:

783
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,020
“You can’t do that, it’s an overload!”
But that's exactly what we wanted.

784
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,220
They didn't want the indicator to go off scale.

785
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,020
They were taught that sound should not be distorted.

786
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,840
"Distortion, my boy,
This is bad news."

787
00:43:38,980 --> 00:43:42,400
We confronted a monumental idea

788
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,200
correct recording method.

789
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,980
But we weren't looking for the right method,

790
00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:50,860
We were looking for the wrong one, you know?

791
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,360
Of course, in the blues the sound is distorted
and the indicators are off the charts.

792
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,380
It's rude and out of line.

793
00:43:59,580 --> 00:44:02,260
But that's the beauty of it, from now on

794
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,260
it all begins, you know?

795
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,620
"Sorry, watch your microphone."

796
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,700
Well, I didn't try on purpose
break it.

797
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:14,260
"No, you're playing too loud

798
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,760
and you moved it!”

799
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,600
After you've learned
play and record

800
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,000
It's time for the hardest lesson of all -

801
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:22,700
learn to know your place.

802
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:26,020
American Blues Masters
continued to visit Britain,

803
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,980
but it has already appeared
generation of young musicians,

804
00:44:29,180 --> 00:44:30,780
ready to support them.

805
00:44:30,980 --> 00:44:32,880
In '64, on a par with the blues legends

806
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,980
The Bluesbreakers took the stage
led by John Mayall.

807
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,020
They wanted

808
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,120
appreciate John Lee Hooker

809
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,860
and organized a large-scale tour for him
all over the country

810
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,920
starring "Bluesbreakers"
accompanying group.

811
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,580
We played everywhere, and the first
the concert was at the Flamingo club

812
00:44:50,780 --> 00:44:53,580
and we got phenomenal
reviews after it.

813
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,820
We were the first to follow this path.

814
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,280
Here's John Mayall looking at him.

815
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,180
You can really see it
only half of his face.

816
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,860
He looks like he's a little unsure

817
00:45:06,060 --> 00:45:09,060
but I can assure you that John
looks at him with admiration.

818
00:45:09,260 --> 00:45:11,980
The Amazing Mr. Hooker.
I didn't know him very well.

819
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,280
One day we had lunch together

820
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,880
when I came to him,
to do an interview.

821
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,040
We ordered chicken
with fried potatoes and something else.

822
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:22,600
You know, at that time
it was the height of cool.

823
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,620
But I can assure you,
meeting him was even cooler.

824
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,580
When that same year "The Groundhogs"
did a tour with Hooker,

825
00:45:32,780 --> 00:45:36,720
Guitarist Tony McPhee got the opportunity
watch and learn from your hero.

826
00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:38,560


827
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:41,340


828
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,360
In the first week

829
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,120
I was just watching him
and his playing technique.

830
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,900
When I saw him
played fingerpicking without a mediator,

831
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:51,140
then I thought:

832
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,540
"That's exactly what I'll do."

833
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,200


834
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:57,120
And unlike others, he wore a belt

835
00:45:57,420 --> 00:45:58,720
on the right shoulder.

836
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,340


837
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,560
I thought I'd do the same.

838
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,820
It still creeps me out.

839
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,740


840
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,420
But it's easy to fix.

841
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:09,940


842
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:11,620
I wanted to do everything like him.

843
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,060


844
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,920
I wanted to become his white counterpart.

845
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,120
In addition, McPhee learned
the true meaning of "support group".

846
00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:24,640
When I

847
00:46:24,940 --> 00:46:27,120
started solo, he stood in front of me...

848
00:46:27,820 --> 00:46:29,520
and acted solo!

849
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,700
Everyone thought he was playing
but it was me. I didn't mind

850
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,600
I didn't care.

851
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:39,940
They had no idea
to keep the rhythm.

852
00:46:40,140 --> 00:46:42,600
Therefore, when we started
play alone,

853
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,220
they usually just stamped their feet,

854
00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:48,420
and when they started,
they stomped faster and faster.

855
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,900
So when you tried to play with them,

856
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,980
it wasn't that easy.

857
00:46:55,780 --> 00:46:58,520
I think it's telepathy.
You studied telepathy.

858
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:00,280
Especially with John

859
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,780
who changed what he wanted and when he wanted.

860
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,240


861
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,240


862
00:47:08,540 --> 00:47:10,940
He said, "What I like about you guys is

863
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:14,260
that I can play
and at 11 bars, and at 16, and at 12 and a half.

864
00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:17,740
You know when you need to change the pattern,
because you feel everything."

865
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,300
The way he varies the musical pattern

866
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,420
and the rhythm in these fragments,

867
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:27,500
how the chords work

868
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:30,100
and what he does with them is amazing.

869
00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:33,680
We realized pretty quickly

870
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,800
that we are white impostors.

871
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,720
Lord, we were playing

872
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,440
together with such people
like Sonny Boy Williamson!

873
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,500
He often got drunk and without thinking

874
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:48,700
changed something, substituting the entire group.

875
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,620
For him we stayed

876
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,220
white guys and he didn't care.

877
00:47:53,420 --> 00:47:55,460
Returning to the States, he stated:

878
00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:56,960
"These guys

879
00:47:57,260 --> 00:48:01,020
they really want to play the blues,
and believe me, they do play it!”

880
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,820
That's the nicest thing he could say.

881
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,980
Manfred Mann, who already had
several hits on the charts,

882
00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:12,320
took part in support
Sonny Boy's performances.

883
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,380
Sonny Boy had a grumpy personality.

884
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,260
But the real problem was

885
00:48:21,460 --> 00:48:24,660
that they played at Manfred Mann's
professional musicians.

886
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,100
Musicians who could
read and write music.

887
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:33,420
We literally went crazy
from 12 bar blues.

888
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:35,900
Young professionals naively believed

889
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:38,560
that this is undoubtedly what it is
12 bar blues.

890
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,960


891
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:45,800
But Sonny Boy knew the right answer:

892
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,900
"Any number I want."

893
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,880


894
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,760


895
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,960
Here's Sonny Boy Williamson

896
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,760
looks devilish or satanic.

897
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,680
He's in a Harlequin costume,
which, as far as I remember,

898
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,540
was black or beige.

899
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,700
I remember one day Sonny Boy stopped
from our manager Giorgio Gomelski,

900
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,420
whose apartment was
here on the corner of Lexham Gardens.

901
00:49:36,620 --> 00:49:40,320
One fine day we came
there and heard a strange noise.

902
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,200
When the door to the bathroom opened,

903
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,900
Sonny Boy stood in front of us,
who was plucking a live chicken.

904
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:49,060
In the bathroom, you know?

905
00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:51,720
It was as if he had returned home.

906
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,020
As you can see, there were plenty of cultural differences.

907
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,140
In the early 60s, more and more
American blues legends

908
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,040
performed in Britain

909
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,100
and cultural differences became
more and more obvious.

910
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:09,220
To save money

911
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,180
performers began to live more often
with their fans, not in hotels.

912
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,160
When Jesse Fuller
first came to England

913
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,180
Val Wilmer invited him

914
00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:20,980
stay with him and his mother
in South London.

915
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,040
I went to meet him
and as soon as he arrived,

916
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:26,380
took me to our house in Streatham.

917
00:50:26,580 --> 00:50:30,420
In those days it was
fashionable area of South London.

918
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:33,960
Here he is drinking tea in my mother's living room.

919
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,900
Then he played the harmonica for us
and a kazoo, hanging them around his neck.

920
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,400
So he could switch

921
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:44,280
between them and play the guitar at the same time.

922
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,160
Most likely Bob Dylan
I copied this design from him.

923
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:53,340
Here he is with my brother.

924
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,980
I like these photos
and although I filmed them myself,

925
00:50:57,180 --> 00:51:00,360
I love them because
it was a unique time.

926
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,140
We didn't get along on everything
but I found out

927
00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:06,840
that he is very unhappy

928
00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:09,440
to be quite frank.

929
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,060
He always complained about
that there were no hamburgers here.

930
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,060
I think if in those days

931
00:51:15,260 --> 00:51:18,360
branded burgers were sold,
he would complain about them too.

932
00:51:18,660 --> 00:51:21,760
In general, my mother bought
a little mince for him

933
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,960
and he cooked for himself
hamburgers in the kitchen.

934
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,860
We would like to introduce you

935
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,120
by "Smokestack Lightning"
Howlin' Wolf.

936
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,480
For the first time Chris Barber invited
Howlin' Wolf to Great Britain in '62.

937
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,760
During his next visit
young British musicians have found out

938
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,380
that for Wolfe himself,
rehearsals were for weaklings.

939
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,880
Wolfe walked in with his tour manager.

940
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,720
He hummed something: “Mmm, mmm,”

941
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,920
then he turned around and looked at us,
and we responded to him: “Mmm, mmm.”

942
00:51:59,220 --> 00:52:00,920
We thought, "Well, now

943
00:52:01,220 --> 00:52:02,520
We'll rehearse."

944
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,500
He took out an harmonica and began to play
slow blues.

945
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:08,340
We joined in and played two verses.

946
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,280
"Hm, yes, they are good.

947
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,060
See you tomorrow."

948
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:15,260
First gig tomorrow in Sunderland.

949
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,860


950
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,580


951
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,240


952
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,060
I heard from... Memphis Slim and...
Muddy Waters that:

953
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,260
"A white man can't play the blues."

954
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,940
They shouldn't have said that
"A white man can't play the blues."

955
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:54,420
Anyone can play the blues: both white and black.

956
00:52:54,620 --> 00:52:57,100
But not everyone can feel the way
what I feel

957
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,640
if he has never lived in captivity.

958
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,900
If no one spat in his face,

959
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:04,860
and he couldn't do anything about it,
although he is a man.

960
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,200
So the blues is about all of this.

961
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,100
Whiskey, women and blues!

962
00:53:14,460 --> 00:53:17,420
But in the States, whiskey, women and especially the blues

963
00:53:17,620 --> 00:53:19,560
was no longer on the menu.

964
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,140
In America

965
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,940
even blacks stopped loving the blues.
It was considered old fashioned

966
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,240
like Uncle Tom

967
00:53:28,540 --> 00:53:30,260
who listened to the comedian

968
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,260
George Formby, you know?

969
00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:34,740
Come on, we like him, but...

970
00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:39,020
George Formby doesn't have much
tribute bands. Although there may be!

971
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,820
You know, black people

972
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,920
there was a problem.

973
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,820
They didn't want them to
reminded of their roots

974
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,060
and wanted to be communicated with
more politely, as with the middle class.

975
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,340
Many of the young blacks
wanted to move on.

976
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,380
In other words, move forward.

977
00:54:00,380 --> 00:54:03,380
Yeah, the blues was connected to the Mississippi Delta
cotton fields

978
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,380
and even slavery.

979
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:08,800
Well, he showed up

980
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:10,260
in West Africa.

981
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:16,900
As part of an informal exchange program,

982
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,420
British rhythm and blues bands

983
00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:23,120
began to visit America, not knowing
that the blues was ignored in his home country.

984
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,000
They were destined to change forever
the course of development of popular music.

985
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,240
Finally, at Chess Records in Chicago

986
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,200
some groups

987
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:38,100
achieved the same sound that they

988
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,400
so desperately sought in Britain.

989
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,620
2220 South Michigan Avenue.

990
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,280
And now you find yourself in the room.

991
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,780
IN THE ROOM.

992
00:54:49,980 --> 00:54:51,660
In one of the ROOMS.

993
00:54:52,980 --> 00:54:55,880
They knew everything about the sound and the guitarists.

994
00:54:56,180 --> 00:54:59,480
They knew guitarists there and for them
everything was adjusted

995
00:54:59,780 --> 00:55:00,980
That's what's amazing.

996
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,380
Willie Dixon, Chuck Berry came in...

997
00:55:04,580 --> 00:55:06,680
Muddy... Buddy Guy.

998
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,300
They all came to listen to us.

999
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,680
Yes, they wanted to know how we do it

1000
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,200
and most importantly WHY?

1001
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,160
Like, "Why do you want to play like us?"

1002
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:22,340
Well... it turned out great, you know?

1003
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,260
One fine day
I have succeeded!

1004
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:27,760
Well...

1005
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,500
...what did they think about us?

1006
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,640
You know, you just sing your stuff...

1007
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,440
and something new comes into this world.

1008
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,980
Fortunately it was a happy union,

1009
00:55:46,180 --> 00:55:48,820
because we got attention

1010
00:55:49,020 --> 00:55:52,020
and to tell the truth,
knew how to behave.

1011
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,380
It seems after that first recording

1012
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,620
we went outside
almost in tears and I said:

1013
00:55:58,220 --> 00:56:00,480
"Yes. Really...

1014
00:56:00,780 --> 00:56:02,180
is it that simple?"

1015
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,880
This was the time when The Yardbirds

1016
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,180
transferred their sound to film.

1017
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,160
We went to Memphis
and got an amazing chance

1018
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,860
sign up for Sun Studios.

1019
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,120
That same guy named Sam Phillips,

1020
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,860
who was recording
Howlin' Wolf and Elvis Presley.

1021
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,720
He came back from fishing after the weekend.

1022
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,180
I don't know how we managed to do it.

1023
00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:27,860
Everything happened in a tiny room
the size of a kitchen.

1024
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,920
There were old amplifiers there
and microphones that were not removed.

1025
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,740
But these guys sounded amazing...

1026
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,320
Blues wasn't popular
type of music in America.

1027
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:44,080
In fact, it seemed
what except

1028
00:56:44,380 --> 00:56:46,420
some separate corners

1029
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:49,320
white America didn't really know about the blues.

1030
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,660
Except "The Rolling Stones"

1031
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:53,260
and "The Who"

1032
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,540
I can name you a lot of bands,

1033
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,280
who came here after The Beatles.

1034
00:57:00,380 --> 00:57:03,100
Well, boy, this is where it all started...

1035
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,140
Before the arrival of the British groups

1036
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,860
blues audience in America
was black. And then...

1037
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,720
people started listening to such artists
like John Mayall

1038
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,360
and maybe even us or someone else.

1039
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,160
One guy said

1040
00:57:20,460 --> 00:57:23,120
that John Lee Hooker,
which he had never heard

1041
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,420
lives two blocks away.

1042
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,720
The journalists knew nothing.

1043
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,800
There was a famous story about
as The Beatles were asked:

1044
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,060
"Whatever most
did you want to see here?"

1045
00:57:35,260 --> 00:57:39,740
The Beatles replied: "Muddy Waters."
Then they were asked again: “Where is this?”

1046
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,680
And then they asked us:
"Who wrote these songs?"

1047
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,860
We replied: "This is a song
Elmore James, and this one Muddy Waters,

1048
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,460
and these Howlin' Wolf and Little Walter."

1049
00:57:48,660 --> 00:57:51,480
We gave them credit
and talked about them in interviews,

1050
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,080
about how great they were, that sort of thing.

1051
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,820
We received letters from people in Chicago,

1052
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,000
who asked:
"Where can we find this music?"

1053
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,900
We usually answered:
"Somewhere over the bridge."

1054
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,280
They started selling records
began to cross borders

1055
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,120
and sell these records in white areas.

1056
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,180
"In white areas" sounds terrible
do you agree? But that's how it was.

1057
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,340
"Hey, these English dudes

1058
00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:18,140
got their hands on this
and they are going to help us."

1059
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,140
In general, sometimes you use
a little bit of your glory to...

1060
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,560
do what you think
must do.

1061
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,680
Selling your records

1062
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,960
British groups not only conveyed
American blues

1063
00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:40,460
to white teenagers in the States,
but also attracted to their idols

1064
00:58:40,660 --> 00:58:42,560
the attention of young Britons.

1065
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,740
We got Jimmy Reed.

1066
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,140
Jimmy agreed, but no way.
I couldn’t believe what was happening.

1067
00:58:48,340 --> 00:58:51,340
He said that the night before
worked in New York for $30.

1068
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,020
I think we hired him for $1,000

1069
00:58:54,220 --> 00:58:56,720
and a bottle of Jack Daniels,
stuffed under the seat.

1070
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,400
He told me:

1071
00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:02,040
"It was in front of me
so many available girls

1072
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,080
It's like I'm in heaven."

1073
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,460
The day before he played for 25 people.

1074
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,380
Arriving here, they performed
At the Royal Albert Hall.

1075
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,480
Crowded hall and all 2,500 spectators

1076
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,480
love them and know them by heart
lyrics of all songs.

1077
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,600
It seemed to shock them.

1078
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,220
I have no doubt that they took a look
at each other and said:

1079
00:59:25,420 --> 00:59:28,400
"Well, this is the strangest crowd,
which I saw."

1080
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,360
A bunch of worthless English guys
with long hair,

1081
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,760
those passing by, just imagine!

1082
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,960
"Well, I didn't mean to hit them!"

1083
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,620
But you didn’t have to choose!

1084
00:59:41,220 --> 00:59:43,820
AT THE CROSSROADS

1085
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,240
By '65 British rhythm and blues
was at the peak of popularity

1086
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,140
and blues bands
flooded the charts around the world.

1087
00:59:51,940 --> 00:59:55,920

on the 99th floor of my block

1088
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,400


1089
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,600
But now these British bands

1090
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:06,580
stood at a crossroads between
blues and rock

1091
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,580
and composed their own material.

1092
01:00:08,780 --> 01:00:11,360

all dressed up just like a Union Jack...

1093
01:00:11,660 --> 01:00:14,100
Their stuff may have been inspired by the blues,

1094
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,000
weren't exactly blues.

1095
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:19,000

his kind of detergent pack

1096
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,440

- You! - You! - Get off of my cloud

1097
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,240

- Get off of my cloud...

1098
01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:33,180
Everything you did

1099
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,620
Stones, Manfred and Animals,
there was some kind of frantic nature.

1100
01:00:37,820 --> 01:00:39,640
Hmm... it was all like this...

1101
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,100
I've always been drawn to The Yardbirds.

1102
01:00:44,300 --> 01:00:46,540
I kept wondering:

1103
01:00:46,740 --> 01:00:49,520
"Why don't they ever fulfill
slow songs?

1104
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,540
It was always "dyn-dyn-dyn"!

1105
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,740
God, yes, how creative
thinking beings, it was necessary

1106
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,280
do something for yourself, so
we started experimenting

1107
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,200
and moved a little away from the blues format.

1108
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,220
I had to look for my music.

1109
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,280


1110
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,160


1111
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,760


1112
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,440


1113
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,660


1114
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,940
We've been doing this for 3-4 years now.

1115
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,800
If we

1116
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:33,360
haven't found a way to get out of this,

1117
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,820
our group would cease to exist.

1118
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,420


1119
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,020


1120
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,020
The Yardbirds were proud of their
young blues guitarist

1121
01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:52,520
which quickly gained its own fans.

1122
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,000
Soon those for whom he became an idol

1123
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,100
They simply christened him “God.”

1124
01:01:58,100 --> 01:01:59,700
Eric Clapton.

1125
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,000
They nicknamed him "God".

1126
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,680
When he woke up, he never said:
"I want to be God."

1127
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,260
Although one evening

1128
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:07,960
I scribbled this on the bridge...

1129
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,880
Just kidding, that didn't happen, but I was planning on it.

1130
01:02:12,180 --> 01:02:14,700


1131
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:19,860
He brought with him deep love
and understanding of that music,

1132
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,300
which I discovered for myself.

1133
01:02:22,900 --> 01:02:25,400
Later I realized that he identified himself

1134
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,440
with these sufferers,
well, like Robert Johnson.

1135
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,320
I'd say he lived the blues
and in fact, to a greater extent,

1136
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:33,540
than me.

1137
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,720
We worked well together

1138
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:40,720
in this busy and short period of time.

1139
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,100
We even shared a bedroom.
We were very close.

1140
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,020
Eric knew how to get along with people.

1141
01:02:54,460 --> 01:02:57,940
"For Your Love" became a musical
prophecy of the future.

1142
01:02:58,340 --> 01:02:59,960


1143
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,840
But Clapton is not interested
in the coming psychedelic future.

1144
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,700
At least for now.

1145
01:03:05,900 --> 01:03:07,260
For him

1146
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,640
simple and pure blues is what
what he is enjoying now.

1147
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,400
"For Your Love" была
"too commercial, dude."

1148
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:14,740


1149
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,000
I don't know if there was electricity
in this studio later,

1150
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,900
but with him it was felt.

1151
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,620
He was going to do something else
and that would be unique.

1152
01:03:23,820 --> 01:03:27,060
He played until the middle
and then, in fact

1153
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:28,700
left us.

1154
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,840
I think for him it was akin to
step beyond the limits of the possible.

1155
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,500
He didn't want to continue
move in the same direction.

1156
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,740
He had his own guidelines.

1157
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,580
Eric was the first to notice that the blues
which we tried to play,

1158
01:03:44,780 --> 01:03:47,180
different from the original theme,

1159
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,480
that black musicians
really got into it.

1160
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,900
It was organic and natural for them.

1161
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,720
This is the key to all of Clapton's music -

1162
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,520
make the music simple and natural.

1163
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,360
If you can make music like this,

1164
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,900
so that it feels natural,
it means you achieved your goal.

1165
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,640
It's only natural that Clapton
joined a real blues band.

1166
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,120
Produced by Mike Vernon,

1167
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,020
album "John Mayall's Blues Breakers"
with Eric Clapton",

1168
01:04:20,220 --> 01:04:21,820
known as "The Beano Album"

1169
01:04:22,020 --> 01:04:24,740
announced the attack
the second British blues boom.

1170
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,940
I had to solve a difficult problem,
considering the difference

1171
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,000
meanwhile Clapton, whom
I remembered in "The Yardbirds"

1172
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,960
and those who are for the first time
took the stage with John Mayall.

1173
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,660
These were two completely different guitarists.

1174
01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:47,340
It must be

1175
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,940
he took a serious dose of Freddie King.

1176
01:04:50,140 --> 01:04:52,460
Really serious, because Freddie

1177
01:04:52,660 --> 01:04:55,260
stopped somewhere in the middle,
and Eric moved on.

1178
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,940
Eric told me:

1179
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,960
"I'll play loud
like at a concert, and I don’t want to

1180
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,220
for someone to tell me
that I should turn down the volume."

1181
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,220
And I answered him:
"I promise this won't happen."

1182
01:05:13,940 --> 01:05:17,980
As soon as Eric plugged in the guitar,
everything went through the ass.

1183
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,540
The drums sounded like this...

1184
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,200
But “God” worked in an incomprehensible way.

1185
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,440
Yes indeed
I just play the blues all the time.

1186
01:05:27,940 --> 01:05:30,520
Briefly blessing
"John Mayall's Blues Breakers",

1187
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,920
Clapton was kidnapped again

1188
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,460
this time by two young jazzmen,
Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce.

1189
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,660
Holy Trinity formed "Cream".

1190
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,180
Eric and I met at Ginger's house.

1191
01:05:46,380 --> 01:05:48,820
It seems he was the only one who had his own house.

1192
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,000
This was in Neasden.

1193
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,400
We have set up the instruments
started playing

1194
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,040
and it turned out just magical.

1195
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,920


1196
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,960


1197
01:06:06,460 --> 01:06:08,400
This is where the blues was born, friends...

1198
01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:14,340
We had no idea
that we are going to play,

1199
01:06:14,540 --> 01:06:16,140
but fortunately

1200
01:06:16,340 --> 01:06:19,840
from Eric, immersed in the blues,
it turned out to be in mind

1201
01:06:20,140 --> 01:06:23,800
a few little known things
performers such as Skip James

1202
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,860
or the slightly more popular Robert Johnson.

1203
01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:29,980
These songs were right for us
and we could play them.

1204
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,960
When "Cream" was formed
my idea was

1205
01:06:45,260 --> 01:06:48,460
to take the blues as a basis
and with full respect to him,

1206
01:06:48,660 --> 01:06:51,620
try to create some
new variety

1207
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,620
British music.

1208
01:06:55,220 --> 01:06:58,320


1209
01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:02,920


1210
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,960

of your precious love

1211
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,000


1212
01:07:20,540 --> 01:07:23,740
When "Cream" appeared, everything was
strange, like in a drug haze.

1213
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:25,900
First appearance of psychedelia

1214
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,560
accompanied by strange sounds

1215
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,400
who announced the birth
progressive rock

1216
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,220
led by the Beatles' Sergeant Pepper.

1217
01:07:36,140 --> 01:07:38,960
Even The Rolling Stones turned out to be
caught by surprise.

1218
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,220
В "Satanic Majesties"
we went the wrong way.

1219
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,160
We tried to copy the Beatles in everything

1220
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,200
starting right from the cover.

1221
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,860
We should have gone back to our roots

1222
01:07:51,060 --> 01:07:54,620
and in '68 we did "Beggars Banquet"
which was very bluesy.

1223
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,600


1224
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:02,160
But according to guitarist Peter Green,

1225
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,560
the blues were more alive than ever.

1226
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,680
Replacing Clapton in "Blues Breakers"
John Mayall

1227
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,760
he was ready to give his version
pure concert blues.

1228
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,160
While many British bands
were copying "The Beatles"

1229
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,880
giving up live performances
in favor of complex studio recordings,

1230
01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:25,680
"Fleetwood Mac" by Peter Green appeared
on stage and shocked everyone as if in ’63.

1231
01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:29,540
I definitely wasn't Buddy Rich

1232
01:08:29,740 --> 01:08:33,440
but did everything possible to play.
I wanted to play.

1233
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,480
I accidentally met people

1234
01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:38,980
who directed me to the blues.

1235
01:08:39,180 --> 01:08:41,860
And what I did as a performer

1236
01:08:42,060 --> 01:08:45,460
really suited me best

1237
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,420
because, in fact,
I didn't know how to do anything else.

1238
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,700
They were the best at the time
touring band.

1239
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,740
Exceptional atmosphere.

1240
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,220
Lord, it was all around
as if electrified.

1241
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,140
They needed an album.

1242
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:15,800
Urgently. They were so popular
that they performed 8 days a week.

1243
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,260


1244
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,020
Something needed to be released.

1245
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,140


1246
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,880

one good thing I tell her to

1247
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,100
With Peter Green
and Mick Fleetwood

1248
01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:35,260
we did two or three tracks
at Dekka,

1249
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,460
and Bob Branning played bass.

1250
01:09:37,660 --> 01:09:41,880
It was a Fleetwood Mac demo -
Peter Green's future band.

1251
01:09:42,180 --> 01:09:44,440
- Guys, we got the right sound.
- Fine.

1252
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,940
Take two.

1253
01:09:46,340 --> 01:09:50,780
Without a doubt Mike Vernon
was the expert of experts.

1254
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,340
He was always full of enthusiasm
and I could amuse you with something,

1255
01:09:54,540 --> 01:09:57,580
like: "No, no, no,
you should come and listen"

1256
01:09:57,780 --> 01:10:00,560
and then he sang, as if stuttering: “Doo-doo-doo.”

1257
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,640
"This is incredible, Mick.
just incredible

1258
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,460
the way the horns come in"
and stuff like that.

1259
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,060
Saying about the right place
at the right time, of course good,

1260
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,940
but you have to be that person
where needed and when needed.

1261
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,120
'Shake Your Moneymaker', take one!'

1262
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,320
He didn't look for perfection.

1263
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,580
"Re-recording, take one."

1264
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,340
But he was looking for something... worthwhile.

1265
01:10:27,540 --> 01:10:29,700
And he knew that this was it.

1266
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,860
And it was worthwhile.

1267
01:10:35,540 --> 01:10:37,940
"Did you hear? It sounds unclear,
It's worth cutting."

1268
01:10:38,140 --> 01:10:40,580
From the releasing side at that moment

1269
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,600
I was probably the right person.
More precisely, I was the only one.

1270
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,340
As far as I know, there was no one else

1271
01:10:47,540 --> 01:10:51,000
who would be as active as me,
and as dedicated as I am.

1272
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,720
Fleetwood Mac's first album
released in early 68th,

1273
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,960
became an international hit.

1274
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,780
The album is better known as
called "The Dog and the Garbage Bin".

1275
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,120
Yes, this is Peter Green's dog.

1276
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,980
Or did it belong to Mike Vernon?
It doesn't matter.

1277
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,140
In the first few months
album "Fleetwood Mac"

1278
01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:21,960
outsold The Beatles
and The Stones combined.

1279
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,180
It was an extraordinary success

1280
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,800
The reason for which no one could understand.

1281
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,220
This little blues band
performed not the most fashionable music.

1282
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,980
Because this album
Of course it was blues.

1283
01:11:34,180 --> 01:11:36,620
People loved him and I'm sure

1284
01:11:36,820 --> 01:11:40,040
that most of them
had no idea

1285
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,740
Where did he actually come from?

1286
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,460
Peter Green is the greatest guitarist.

1287
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,680
As far as taste is concerned,

1288
01:11:51,980 --> 01:11:54,980
I think he was at that time
surpassed Clapton.

1289
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:01,140
There is something in this formula.

1290
01:12:01,740 --> 01:12:04,400
You see, they bent it, twisted it

1291
01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:06,000
and everything else.

1292
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,780
Like their predecessors,

1293
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,640
the coolest bluesmen of the second wave

1294
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,340
We also looked beyond the boundaries of “12 bars”
in search of originality

1295
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,500
and new forms of blues that are better
would have suited Britain in the 60s.

1296
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,620
I was interested

1297
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,020
only new material.
I always wanted to be a composer.

1298
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,900
When I was composing

1299
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:35,100
"Cream" was for me
a means of expressing ideas.

1300
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,000


1301
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,280


1302
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,560
The song is associated with the politician Profumo
and a famous scandal.

1303
01:12:54,860 --> 01:12:59,100
We took up the idea
about an elderly politician in a limousine.

1304
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,780
He was overly excited by young girls

1305
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,080
who wore very short skirts in the 60s

1306
01:13:06,380 --> 01:13:08,380
and he longed for adventure.

1307
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,060


1308
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,120


1309
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,580
I always thought about these words:

1310
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:25,260
"Even if you were a Russian spy,
I don't care.

1311
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,660
Your thigh with my hand
I want to stroke and caress."

1312
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,580
It would be funny to hear that in the blues.

1313
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,240
The success of those who represented
British blues rock in '68,

1314
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:44,800
meant that even the nascent
progressive groups

1315
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,600
could fly the blues flag in the charts.

1316
01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:50,700
The choice of the unusual

1317
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,200
but an instrument suitable for the blues,

1318
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,020
played a role in
"Jethro Tull" by Ian Anderson.

1319
01:13:57,420 --> 01:14:00,500
It was almost like Eric's
only he didn't play the flute.

1320
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,400
It's like being a cancer without fish.

1321
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,200
You could really stand out from the crowd

1322
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,220
playing the blues on the flute at the Marquee club,
because no one did that.

1323
01:14:10,820 --> 01:14:14,760
But, as you know, soon "Jethro Tull"
became more than just a blues band.

1324
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:24,200
That was Anderson's plan

1325
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,700
but the group's management
I was alarmed by this confusion.

1326
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,240
This tool is no good
for a blues band.

1327
01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:34,980
You have to push forward
guitarist Mick Abrahams.

1328
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,580
Make him play and sing more.
Why don't you learn

1329
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,620
play a small piano

1330
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,320
and stand behind?

1331
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,760


1332
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,320


1333
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,080


1334
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,040


1335
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,280
The group was formed on the basis of

1336
01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:02,080
that you needed a guitarist,
who could play the blues.

1337
01:15:02,380 --> 01:15:04,660
Because the blues was in vogue

1338
01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:07,560
and it was a purely commercial adventure.

1339
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,160
The blues was an integral part
that "Jethro Tull".

1340
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:20,040
If, after playing one note in a 12-bar solo,

1341
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,240
can you force someone
cry or laugh...

1342
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,000
all the wonderful emotions
that are related to music,

1343
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,100
this for me is the real blues.

1344
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:33,620
Like a prayer.

1345
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,460
Never, neither then nor now,
I had no desire

1346
01:15:37,660 --> 01:15:40,480
be third rate
musical wannabe

1347
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,980
the music that I respect.

1348
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,900
"Alabama Blues" door J.B. Lenoir
not very well known

1349
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:48,900
although this is one of the greatest
blues stuff of all time.

1350
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:50,900
He sings about race riots.

1351
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,200
It would be funny if I sang it

1352
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,260
because it is deeply personal.

1353
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,300
Ian had his own plans regarding music.

1354
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,660
Basically, because of me...

1355
01:16:00,860 --> 01:16:03,460
There were two different "Jethro Tulls" emerging.

1356
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:08,800
After the battle between the guitar and the flute,

1357
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,600
between blues rock and progressive rock,

1358
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,840
Mick Abrahams has left Jethro Tull.

1359
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,720
It was then that fame and success came to them.

1360
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,340
How do you like it?

1361
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:23,540
This doesn't mean I'm a snob or anything...

1362
01:16:24,340 --> 01:16:27,480
just needed some
smart output

1363
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,980
beyond this simple
and a vital form of music.

1364
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,320
In fact, both
worthwhile things!

1365
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:40,820
In 1969

1366
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,220
this one is "simple and life-affirming"

1367
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,820
genre of music, brought a lot
awards from Melody Maker magazine

1368
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,360
British blues performers.

1369
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,540
Some thought

1370
01:16:52,740 --> 01:16:54,440
that the blues has become a license,

1371
01:16:54,740 --> 01:16:56,940
allowing you to print money

1372
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,840
and guaranteeing international fame.

1373
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,280
But one question remained open:

1374
01:17:02,580 --> 01:17:04,580
"Can white people sing the blues?"

1375
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,500
You know, we all start by trying.
copy those we love.

1376
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,520
Then it’s good if you can understand
what exactly do you like about them?

1377
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,720
Are you trying

1378
01:17:15,020 --> 01:17:18,000
concentrate on everything
the best and absorb it into yourself.

1379
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,600
Then what you get is

1380
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:23,180
will already be original.

1381
01:17:24,180 --> 01:17:27,500


1382
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,780


1383
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,820


1384
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:37,080


1385
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,360


1386
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,880
The essence of the blues is...

1387
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,580
expression... social
and the spiritual state of man.

1388
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,380


1389
01:17:51,780 --> 01:17:55,000
Finally try
let this music pass through you

1390
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,400
and if in you

1391
01:17:56,700 --> 01:17:59,940
that same feeling will appear
even if it sounds like this

1392
01:18:00,140 --> 01:18:03,380
like "a white guy plays the blues"
it means it works.

1393
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:08,500


1394
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,200
And it WORKED.

1395
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,600
Another time at another
successful blues band.

1396
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,100
This was the Fleetwood Mac period
"Ten Years After", "Chicken Shack",

1397
01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:20,880
"Savoy Brown", "The Groundhogs" и "Taste".

1398
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,260
They presented the soundtrack

1399
01:18:24,460 --> 01:18:27,720
with arguments of devotion to the blues
against originality

1400
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,020
and authenticity against theft.

1401
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,920
Accompaniment of confession of guilt
middle class white population.

1402
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,840


1403
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,600


1404
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,680


1405
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:52,100


1406
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,560


1407
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,120


1408
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,080

Of the river Thames

1409
01:19:02,380 --> 01:19:05,480


1410
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,280

than I can spend

1411
01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:10,920


1412
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,780


1413
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,660


1414
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,460


1415
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,340
Under the steam released by "Cream"

1416
01:19:33,540 --> 01:19:36,460
British blues has turned
on an out of control train,

1417
01:19:36,660 --> 01:19:39,460
who pulled along
rock, jazz and psychedelia.

1418
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,520
At a time when our income

1419
01:19:43,820 --> 01:19:45,620
were more than everyone else's

1420
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,420
the rest combined
we were just jamming.

1421
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,760
I like the word better
"improvised" sounds better.

1422
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,560
Eric Clapton joined
to two jazz musicians.

1423
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,680
Naturally, jazz musicians
improvising and stretching things out.

1424
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,680
For them, a 10-minute number -
this is absolutely normal.

1425
01:20:07,980 --> 01:20:11,440
As a result of the work
in tandem with two of the greatest

1426
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,540
from British jazz performers,

1427
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,240
Eric learned a lot about improvisation

1428
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:20,460
and discovered new areas
guitar applications.

1429
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,140
Like the traditional version of jazz,

1430
01:20:23,340 --> 01:20:25,840
John Mayall always tried to recreate

1431
01:20:26,140 --> 01:20:28,880
Chicago blues sound,
literally note for note.

1432
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:33,060
It was essentially a traditional version of the blues.

1433
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,020
At the same time, using the language of the blues,

1434
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,420
tried to create
a new variety of its

1435
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,640
unique and original music.

1436
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,880
There was nothing in us
from the blues of Chicago or the Delta,

1437
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,640
except for inspiration and style itself.

1438
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,920
British blues has arrived
to the next intersection,

1439
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,220
indicating directions

1440
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,120
into hard rock, progressive rock and jazz rock.

1441
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,320
At the peak of its popularity

1442
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,820
"Cream" musicians decided to separate
and go different ways.

1443
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,580
They said goodbye to everyone
November 26th '68 at the Royal Albert Hall.

1444
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,200
The devil was waiting for his share
for universal worship

1445
01:21:21,500 --> 01:21:24,140
and unexpected international success.

1446
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:33,220
Fame and fortune turned out to be too much
for guitarist Peter Green.

1447
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,780
LSD was waiting for him at the crossroads,

1448
01:21:35,980 --> 01:21:38,680
after which he left the blues
and left Fleetwood Mac.

1449
01:21:43,780 --> 01:21:46,280
But first he talked about
how he felt.

1450
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:52,400


1451
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,660


1452
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:02,900


1453
01:22:05,300 --> 01:22:07,720


1454
01:22:08,220 --> 01:22:09,720
Peter's voice

1455
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:12,160
was as important as his guitar.

1456
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,740
and he... could wound you to the very heart.

1457
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,820


1458
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,840
We didn't understand him

1459
01:22:23,140 --> 01:22:26,340
because in my own way
he was a happy guy.

1460
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:31,040
And yet, listen
to his words in "Man Of The World"...

1461
01:22:32,140 --> 01:22:34,700

I had never been born...

1462
01:22:34,900 --> 01:22:37,500

come into being...

1463
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,620
He was much more sensitive

1464
01:22:40,820 --> 01:22:43,320
than could be imagined.

1465
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,340
The suffering he went through

1466
01:22:47,540 --> 01:22:49,940
visible in most of the material,

1467
01:22:50,740 --> 01:22:53,240
what he wrote in those three years.

1468
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,160
In fact, after Peter left

1469
01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:10,320
Our band is no longer purely blues.

1470
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:14,100
But we retreated for a reason...
but having learned certain lessons.

1471
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,200
But some are British

1472
01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:25,200
blues bands didn't take classes.

1473
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:32,700
They were too busy
desperately pursuing schoolgirls.

1474
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,180


1475
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,900


1476
01:23:49,480 --> 01:23:51,980
In the process of deepening musical knowledge

1477
01:23:52,180 --> 01:23:55,480
stop ignoring the music
there are many notes in the score.

1478
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,960
But we must not forget an important thing,

1479
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,840
which we were taught by people like
B.B. King: "Less is more."

1480
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,640
Doo-de-do-de-do-de-do,
they think this is the blues.

1481
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:19,000
du-de-du-de-du-de-duu-duu-duu, oh de-de.
Well, diddly-diddley-diddley-doo.

1482
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:24,920
It's not really blues.
The blues is doo-doo-doo-doo-doo, diddle-oo-doo.

1483
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,840
Like, "I lost my baby...

1484
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,920
Where am I gonna live?"

1485
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:33,200
It must come from the heart
and not spill out, hmm...

1486
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,380
at the volume limit
or as a guitar solo,

1487
01:24:36,580 --> 01:24:39,580
played with maximum
speed and weight of notes.

1488
01:24:39,780 --> 01:24:41,900
This, in my opinion, is a show off.

1489
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,940
I know many
from these dudes I understand

1490
01:24:45,140 --> 01:24:47,180
that most of them

1491
01:24:47,380 --> 01:24:49,980
doesn't really want to go that route.

1492
01:24:50,180 --> 01:24:52,760
But the business is growing and growing.

1493
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,020
And the money...
and promising management...

1494
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,300
Do you know? I'm asking about what you
what are you going to do in this world?

1495
01:25:03,500 --> 01:25:05,580
Do you know why you did this?

1496
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,880
and what do you want to end up with?

1497
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:09,800
That's what the blues are like now.

1498
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,060
'Lead Guitar, Jimmy Page!'

1499
01:25:18,900 --> 01:25:20,340
Finish it off

1500
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,640
or, in the wake of girl psychosis,
on the contrary, start all over again,

1501
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,940
happened to the new legendary four.

1502
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,500
At first Led Zep received
a fair amount of criticism for

1503
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,220
that they stole Willie Dixon's things.

1504
01:25:32,420 --> 01:25:34,980
So what? You know, everyone did that.

1505
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,680
Ranked as the best
from British bands of that era,

1506
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,780
they took the blues to a new place.

1507
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,160
The stadium became such a place,

1508
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,680
where was the British blues in the 70s?

1509
01:25:57,980 --> 01:26:00,780
was enrolled
into the intellectual category.

1510
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,380


1511
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,600


1512
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,280


1513
01:26:19,480 --> 01:26:22,860
But what do you hear about blacks?
American blues performers,

1514
01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:25,860
who personally brought
your music to these shores

1515
01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:29,560
and firmly settled in the hearts
British audiences and musicians?

1516
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,760
Champion Jack Dupree never came back.

1517
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,780
He settled in Halifax
and married a Yorkshire girl.

1518
01:26:39,220 --> 01:26:41,380
Since I came to England,

1519
01:26:41,580 --> 01:26:43,680
I felt that this was a heavenly place.

1520
01:26:46,180 --> 01:26:47,980
I don't care

1521
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,580
if anyone thinks it's hard here.

1522
01:26:51,480 --> 01:26:53,080
For me this is paradise.

1523
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,240
When you get rid
from slavery and you end up in a place

1524
01:26:58,440 --> 01:27:01,240
where are you free...
you won't be able to go back.

1525
01:27:01,540 --> 01:27:03,540
If someone there spat on me,

1526
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,240
I would have killed him.

1527
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,320
Everyone here knows me
including the police.

1528
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,360
Here I am known to everyone and this is my home.

1529
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,680
When we are in England in the early 60s
the blues started playing

1530
01:27:21,980 --> 01:27:25,380
we tried to recreate what
what they heard on records.

1531
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,280
This is the best
what could we do.

1532
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:32,660
And it doesn't matter if we were
close to the original or not,

1533
01:27:32,860 --> 01:27:34,660
we treated it with great love.

1534
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:41,160
We lived and breathed misery
and the desires of these people.

1535
01:27:42,620 --> 01:27:46,140
That's what the blues is.
This is not the music that the British stole

1536
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:50,640
and sold it back to America,
although this also happened.

1537
01:27:53,060 --> 01:27:57,260
This is a woman, this is a drum...
and all that.

1538
01:27:57,460 --> 01:28:00,080
This is much more important than anything

1539
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,740
what can you sell or
What can you put a label on?

1540
01:28:04,940 --> 01:28:08,420
Much more.
This is humanity itself.

1541
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,700
As for whether we can
someday surpass those people

1542
01:28:13,900 --> 01:28:16,540
where it all really started:

1543
01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:19,760
Robert Johnsons, Howlin' Wolf,
Muddy Waters.

1544
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:21,260
NO!

1545
01:28:22,260 --> 01:28:24,960


1546
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,520


1547
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,480


1548
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,240


1549
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,540


1550
01:28:46,740 --> 01:28:49,020


1551
01:28:49,420 --> 01:28:53,460
Russian subtitles - Fragile59,
with gratitude to Boris Varshavsky.